Comments on: You’re With Us or Against Us? http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/ The Furious Scribblings of Chris Pramas Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.10 By: Anonymous http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-462 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:22:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-462 I agree with Andrew Gale that it would be great if some publishers banded together to keep 3.5 alive and in a published format for new gamers to be able to buy the rules.

Paizo is deviating from that course to some extent with Pathfinder (I support their efforts, though). Still, a version that just fixes the grapple and a few other issues would be highly accepted. GR has the capability to pull that off and have other companies band around them.

I’d love to see it.

Christina

]]> By: Andrew Gale http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-461 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:33:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-461 Chris, hang in there buddy. One thing I have noticed is that WotC is capitalising on the division it is causing among third party publishers. You guys need to stick together and come up with some sort of alliance where you all agree on one ruleset and create your campaign/world settings/Adventure Paths from variations of that. I’ll stnad up and say that True20 has that basis. I just wished Green Ronin had announced the free True20 license sooner, perhaps Paizo might have picked it up for Pathfinder.

I think that by standing together, you, Paizo, Goodman Games and others will have enough of an audience to make your success consistent. You all just need to focus.

You are doing a great job.

]]> By: Foomf http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-460 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:41:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-460 So, restraint of trade, and poison pills … I think they need to fire their lawyers.

]]> By: Valberto http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-459 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:29:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-459 Man, this is the first time I post, but is for a good reason.
If i did not had any reason for supporting 4e, now I have a strong one for DONT SUPPORT. I’m very happy with my 3.X books and OGL alike.

]]> By: Captain Noble http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-458 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:50:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-458 I just want to add my voice to the masses, Chris, in saying that I will be supporting Green Ronin whatever you do. If that happens to be with your existing lines under the OGL, then great. You put out great products and I can’t wait to see what you do in the future.

]]> By: K. David Ladage http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-457 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:22:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-457 Given that (from my understanding of the comments made by Mr. Peterson over on ENWorld) this new license is not irrevokable (ie: it can be pulled away at any time on a company-by-company basis), creating a new company to support 4e seems… risky. If you torque WotC the wrong way, you could find yourself unable to support this new game… unable to sell your stock… and out of business.

Yes… I say that someone like GR should take the existing SRD and publish it — as close to unchanged as possible (i.e., not what Paizo is doing) and continue support of the 3.x game that way…

]]> By: Jonathan Walton http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-456 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:28:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-456 Thanks for writing the best blog on the web for a rational take on this whole OGL mess, Chris. However this ends up playing out, I’m sure Green Ronin will continue to be successful and one of the best companies in this business.

]]> By: Matt Sheridan http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-455 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:35:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-455 This really does strike me as a weirdly demanding decision to make. Considering how much mileage certain important publishers have gotten–and are still getting–out of OGL materials, it seems to me that WotC are ensuring that all the best third party development companies won’t be supporting 4e. Green Ronin (I’m very happy to see) would rather stick with Mutants & Masterminds and True20, and Paizo–who a lot of people think of as modern D&D;‘s best adventure designers–have already declared they’re staying with an OGL-derived system. 4e is only going to be poorer for not allowing these companies to work both fields.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-454 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:35:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-454 I saw that on RPG.NET earlier. That clause seems like the last straw on even considering going to 4e. If they really didn’t want any competition with 4e, which is what it seems like with this addition, then why even open it up to begin with? It looks like a sneaky way to kill other companies, especially if they decided to revoke it at some point in the near future. They basically could pull the rug out from under you after you’ve changed your entire company strategy to go with their product.

The GSL is a trap. You’ll need a 10-foot pole to protect yourself on this one.

Screw 4e. Long live M&M; and T20!!!

Christina

]]> By: Nick http://www.chrispramas.com/2008/04/19/youre-with-us-or-against-us/#comment-453 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:16:00 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=148#comment-453 I understand why WotC are doing what they are doing with the 4e stuff in terms of the WotC only period before they open it all up – that’s fair enough and makes a lot of sense, plus allows people to get a really good grasp of the rules before they start to publish.

But this? This seems stupid.

Unless it’s a misunderstanding. Perhaps what Scott Rouse meant was ‘either people will choose to keep doing OGL/d20 stuff or they’ll dedicate their resources to 4e’ meaning that smaller companies won’t have the resources to do both.

I can’t wait for this stuff to be resolved! I liked reading this blog for the punk rock and other gaming stories, plus food! You seem happier when writing that stuff as well, and this all seems to be frustrating you to hell.

Have fun in Vegas…

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