Comments on: Jingoism is not Patriotism http://www.chrispramas.com/2009/07/04/jingoism-is-not-patriotism/ The Furious Scribblings of Chris Pramas Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:54:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.10 By: Anonymous http://www.chrispramas.com/2009/07/04/jingoism-is-not-patriotism/#comment-132 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:54:55 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=39#comment-132 How's Obama's cock taste, Pramas? Like that you got the boot from the 4e team?

]]> By: Ralph Horsley http://www.chrispramas.com/2009/07/04/jingoism-is-not-patriotism/#comment-131 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:38:59 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=39#comment-131 Very well said.

I found the Liz Cheney quote very depressing, doubly so as I come from one of the inferior countries (the UK), which in turn might explain Obama's overseas popularity.

Though of course we have our own weird national pride – something along the lines of knowing that we are intrinsically the best, whilst happily acknowledging that when it comes to the details we are in actuality a bit shite.

]]> By: Tetsubo http://www.chrispramas.com/2009/07/04/jingoism-is-not-patriotism/#comment-130 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:32:09 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=39#comment-130 When Obama won the election I felt proud of my country for the first time in my life. It was my first brush with patriotism.

Jingoism is a fish of another color though. That falls into the, "I love my country right or wrong" sort of mentality. Which isn't healthy for the person holding the ideal nor the nation at large.

No nation is always right. And America has had what could best be described as checkered past.

I love the ideals that America says it stand for. I am endlessly disappointed in their failed execution however.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.chrispramas.com/2009/07/04/jingoism-is-not-patriotism/#comment-129 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:04:11 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=39#comment-129 Jingoism is the equivalent of two six year olds arguing over whose Dad can beat up who. Even for the six year old whose Dad can beat up the other Dads, is that really why he or anyone else loves his Dad?

Jingoism isn't patriotism, because jingoists would stop loving their country if it failed.

The US isn't "great", it happens to be the one Western nation that enjoyed the benefits of the Industrial Revolution without suffering the debilitating European wars that dragged Europe down.

With the east now experiencing the Industrial Revolution, the US is reaching the end of its dominance.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.chrispramas.com/2009/07/04/jingoism-is-not-patriotism/#comment-128 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:04:10 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=39#comment-128 It should also be noted that Jefferson didnt mean that everyone was equal, he only meant that those in power were equal to everyone else in power. You only had the right to vote if you were 1) White 2) Male and 3) land holder. Which was really less than 10% of the population at the time, so where was Jeffersons equality? We have always been an ethnocentric nation, and dont believe that is going away any time soon.

]]> By: AccidentalFraser http://www.chrispramas.com/2009/07/04/jingoism-is-not-patriotism/#comment-127 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:45:15 +0000 http://chrispramas.com/?p=39#comment-127 Maybe the Johnson quote should be "Jingoism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." 😉

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