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		By: Vicky		</title>
		<link>http://www.chrispramas.com/2015/02/27/our-future-is-not-star-trek/#comment-26848</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2015 16:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For a few days after the first of the year I thought back to that man (or maybe it was the falimy) that owns like 3 things a piece &#038; I thought I should try. I&#039;m unorganized &#038; always in search of the next thing while my current things slowly suffocate me, while I&#039;m still screaming  But we don&#039;t have anything . I threw the idea out once I realized that owning only 3 things would probably send me more in a tizzy &#038; just try &#038; focus on not being such an unorganized &#038; greedy whore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a few days after the first of the year I thought back to that man (or maybe it was the falimy) that owns like 3 things a piece &amp; I thought I should try. I&#8217;m unorganized &amp; always in search of the next thing while my current things slowly suffocate me, while I&#8217;m still screaming  But we don&#8217;t have anything . I threw the idea out once I realized that owning only 3 things would probably send me more in a tizzy &amp; just try &amp; focus on not being such an unorganized &amp; greedy whore.</p>
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		By: Travis Henry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2015 01:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad to hear a gamer whose work I respect express their hope for a social future. Some friends and I are striving to bring a turn of events in our lifetime which neither the Right or the Left has imagined, but which is poised to bring as intense a healing experience as the intensely traumatic events of the passing &quot;Century of Nightmare&quot;...it&#039;s called the Threefold Republic.

The separation of the economy from the state, and the full emergence of a non-governmental, non-commerical cultural-education &quot;third sector&quot; is the best possible future. You&#039;re welcome to check out the flags and maps at my website.

Heck, if we can bring this to manifestation, the worlds of fiction will change too--in a similar way that the Federation-Klingon relationship changed to reflect the real world end of the Cold War. The Threefold Republic will bring social conditions which are even better than the Federation, with its uber-Scandinavian social democratic fusion of government, economy, and culture, however positive it is portrayed. The Threefold Republic is a whole step above even the Scandinavian Model, which is admirable in some regards, but which is stultified by a one-sided &quot;Governmentalism&quot; of the economic and cultural-education sectors. I hope that in our lifetime I and my colleagues will evoke at least one Threefold Republic in our world. Then, as our healing impulse expands, in the fictive world, we would see the real world mirrored in a &quot;Threefold Federation of Planets.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear a gamer whose work I respect express their hope for a social future. Some friends and I are striving to bring a turn of events in our lifetime which neither the Right or the Left has imagined, but which is poised to bring as intense a healing experience as the intensely traumatic events of the passing &#8220;Century of Nightmare&#8221;&#8230;it&#8217;s called the Threefold Republic.</p>
<p>The separation of the economy from the state, and the full emergence of a non-governmental, non-commerical cultural-education &#8220;third sector&#8221; is the best possible future. You&#8217;re welcome to check out the flags and maps at my website.</p>
<p>Heck, if we can bring this to manifestation, the worlds of fiction will change too&#8211;in a similar way that the Federation-Klingon relationship changed to reflect the real world end of the Cold War. The Threefold Republic will bring social conditions which are even better than the Federation, with its uber-Scandinavian social democratic fusion of government, economy, and culture, however positive it is portrayed. The Threefold Republic is a whole step above even the Scandinavian Model, which is admirable in some regards, but which is stultified by a one-sided &#8220;Governmentalism&#8221; of the economic and cultural-education sectors. I hope that in our lifetime I and my colleagues will evoke at least one Threefold Republic in our world. Then, as our healing impulse expands, in the fictive world, we would see the real world mirrored in a &#8220;Threefold Federation of Planets.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Richfromengland		</title>
		<link>http://www.chrispramas.com/2015/02/27/our-future-is-not-star-trek/#comment-25205</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richfromengland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having use Orbiter Simulator 2010 to launch the older Orbiter into a stable orbit, even as imperfect as I may be at understanding the environment of orbiting our own planet.

The idea of travelling to another star system is unlikely. 

As for the fuddy duddy view of the future on Earth, it is the minds we all have that prevent such a future from existing. After all, human history lived a long time with out fossil fuel resources, and bare in mind that these are currently in decline.

Trek was a convient view of the future which a lot of us find it hard to stop dwelling on it as some sort of possible path.

There was a initiative to go to the moon by around about this time, by the previous American government, but it failed due to cost, and the lack of interest by political circles. Even the last man who stepped off the surface at Taurus Littrow moon valley has some sort of hubris about America&#039;s lost space agenda. He&#039;ll pretend he doesn&#039;t, but deep down he wants to see American Astronauts go back and create a positive future, and relieve his name from the history books of being the last person to climb the ladder aboard Challenger and take off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having use Orbiter Simulator 2010 to launch the older Orbiter into a stable orbit, even as imperfect as I may be at understanding the environment of orbiting our own planet.</p>
<p>The idea of travelling to another star system is unlikely. </p>
<p>As for the fuddy duddy view of the future on Earth, it is the minds we all have that prevent such a future from existing. After all, human history lived a long time with out fossil fuel resources, and bare in mind that these are currently in decline.</p>
<p>Trek was a convient view of the future which a lot of us find it hard to stop dwelling on it as some sort of possible path.</p>
<p>There was a initiative to go to the moon by around about this time, by the previous American government, but it failed due to cost, and the lack of interest by political circles. Even the last man who stepped off the surface at Taurus Littrow moon valley has some sort of hubris about America&#8217;s lost space agenda. He&#8217;ll pretend he doesn&#8217;t, but deep down he wants to see American Astronauts go back and create a positive future, and relieve his name from the history books of being the last person to climb the ladder aboard Challenger and take off.</p>
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		By: Matthew Andrews		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 12:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article doesn&#039;t really deny the possibility that Star Trek is our future.  The storyline of Star Trek takes place another 250 years into the future.  At this point in history, according to Star Trek, we&#039;re supposed to have had another World War.  So Gene Roddenberry certainly didn&#039;t think we were over the hump yet.

There certainly is plenty of room to criticize Star Trek&#039;s vision of the future.  For one thing, it is very sympathetic to the idea that technology will solve social problems.  We know however, that we already have enough food to feed the world, for example, but people still go hungry.  We could provide health care to everyone, but don&#039;t.  Technology that could make life easier, just facilitates the extraction of productivity from us.

Star Trek presumes a society where everyone is equal and nobody needs money, but we don&#039;t see much of how that would work.  We do however, see lots of military heirarchy.  The Enterprise, the Federation&#039;s starfleet, and every other species they encounter seems to have the same social structure, at least for exploring space.  The one notable exception, the Borg, are completely equal but also murderous automatons.

I still love Star Trek.  But my hope for the future is less about a United Federation of Planets, and more about small communities networked by mutual aid, to meet the needs of all people.  And as romantic as the idea of exploring space may be, I hope we can rediscover a love and respect for this Earth we call home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article doesn&#8217;t really deny the possibility that Star Trek is our future.  The storyline of Star Trek takes place another 250 years into the future.  At this point in history, according to Star Trek, we&#8217;re supposed to have had another World War.  So Gene Roddenberry certainly didn&#8217;t think we were over the hump yet.</p>
<p>There certainly is plenty of room to criticize Star Trek&#8217;s vision of the future.  For one thing, it is very sympathetic to the idea that technology will solve social problems.  We know however, that we already have enough food to feed the world, for example, but people still go hungry.  We could provide health care to everyone, but don&#8217;t.  Technology that could make life easier, just facilitates the extraction of productivity from us.</p>
<p>Star Trek presumes a society where everyone is equal and nobody needs money, but we don&#8217;t see much of how that would work.  We do however, see lots of military heirarchy.  The Enterprise, the Federation&#8217;s starfleet, and every other species they encounter seems to have the same social structure, at least for exploring space.  The one notable exception, the Borg, are completely equal but also murderous automatons.</p>
<p>I still love Star Trek.  But my hope for the future is less about a United Federation of Planets, and more about small communities networked by mutual aid, to meet the needs of all people.  And as romantic as the idea of exploring space may be, I hope we can rediscover a love and respect for this Earth we call home.</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 07:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our mobile phones are in no way tricorders. 
We get the politicians we deserve, especially if people don&#039;t bother to vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our mobile phones are in no way tricorders.<br />
We get the politicians we deserve, especially if people don&#8217;t bother to vote.</p>
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		By: John Dick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 06:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I cannot disagree with this article more. The author is focusing on perceived horrors in the world today, when in reality things are constantly improving. Not just technologically, but socially as well. 50 years ago, we were worried about not having enough food during the ongoing population explosion. Thanks to GM techniques and agricultural advancements, food is so bountiful that we take it for granted. Disease has been all but eradicated. Most people today are completely unaware of how horrible measles and polio actually were.

But, if you&#039;re talking about the world from a social justice perspective, things are amazing there as well. Sure, we can bemoan about little things that we have yet to improve on... but, for pity&#039;s sake... 50 years ago, women could barely leave the house or get an education. Today, it&#039;s possible for women to work in any industry that they want and support themselves without having to rely on getting a husband to make ends meet. 50 years ago, it was scandalous to have an interracial marriage. Today, it&#039;s celebrated that we are making gay marriage legal. The article mentions &#039;torture&#039;... as if the author even knows what torture is. Yeah, waterboarding and playing Justin Bieber on continuous loop is a horrible way to treat a prisoner. But, for Christ&#039;s sake... torture used to mean ripping teeth out with rusty pliers and driving bamboo splinters under fingernails, or worse.

The author talks about us &#039;not being able to afford health care&#039;... when the idea of universal health care would have literally been laughable 50 years ago. The fact that we&#039;re even having a discussion about it on a national level is leagues beyond anything that we could have conceived of in the past. And don&#039;t even get me started on how corporations screwed over workers and polluted the environment 50 years ago.

Don&#039;t compare where the world is to your ideals, when trying to determine whether we&#039;re advancing or not. Compare it to where we&#039;ve come from.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot disagree with this article more. The author is focusing on perceived horrors in the world today, when in reality things are constantly improving. Not just technologically, but socially as well. 50 years ago, we were worried about not having enough food during the ongoing population explosion. Thanks to GM techniques and agricultural advancements, food is so bountiful that we take it for granted. Disease has been all but eradicated. Most people today are completely unaware of how horrible measles and polio actually were.</p>
<p>But, if you&#8217;re talking about the world from a social justice perspective, things are amazing there as well. Sure, we can bemoan about little things that we have yet to improve on&#8230; but, for pity&#8217;s sake&#8230; 50 years ago, women could barely leave the house or get an education. Today, it&#8217;s possible for women to work in any industry that they want and support themselves without having to rely on getting a husband to make ends meet. 50 years ago, it was scandalous to have an interracial marriage. Today, it&#8217;s celebrated that we are making gay marriage legal. The article mentions &#8216;torture&#8217;&#8230; as if the author even knows what torture is. Yeah, waterboarding and playing Justin Bieber on continuous loop is a horrible way to treat a prisoner. But, for Christ&#8217;s sake&#8230; torture used to mean ripping teeth out with rusty pliers and driving bamboo splinters under fingernails, or worse.</p>
<p>The author talks about us &#8216;not being able to afford health care&#8217;&#8230; when the idea of universal health care would have literally been laughable 50 years ago. The fact that we&#8217;re even having a discussion about it on a national level is leagues beyond anything that we could have conceived of in the past. And don&#8217;t even get me started on how corporations screwed over workers and polluted the environment 50 years ago.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t compare where the world is to your ideals, when trying to determine whether we&#8217;re advancing or not. Compare it to where we&#8217;ve come from.</p>
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		By: Peter Corless		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 05:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with your assessment, sadly and tragically, Chris. Yet this is why I founded GlobalCommit.org. It may not be the Federation -- because our &quot;prime directive&quot; is to interfere in situations rather than let things sort themselves out. GlobalCommit has a project domestically called &quot;Civility Movement&quot; to help promote those values which made us a great nation -- human decency shown to everyone in our nation -- and overseas, where matters are far more critical and dire, a program called CoexistSTANCE, for there is an urgent need to stand besides others at threat of kidnap, death, rape, torture and more due to various strains of violent extremism around the globe.

I think one of the greatest changes between the 1960s and today was that we are no longer believing that centralized institutions are going to come to our rescue. This is no longer a &quot;mainframe&quot; world. It&#039;s a &quot;web world.&quot; Likewise, we are seeing from-the-ground-up groups working on changing the world. One world-changing app, one web site, one invention at a time.

I would like to encourage everyone who wishes to see that positive universe foreseen in Star Trek to join us at GlobalCommit.org. We have opportunities to organize through social media, to create applications using big data, and to help document and track the issues of our world today, and work to making it a better place in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment, sadly and tragically, Chris. Yet this is why I founded GlobalCommit.org. It may not be the Federation &#8212; because our &#8220;prime directive&#8221; is to interfere in situations rather than let things sort themselves out. GlobalCommit has a project domestically called &#8220;Civility Movement&#8221; to help promote those values which made us a great nation &#8212; human decency shown to everyone in our nation &#8212; and overseas, where matters are far more critical and dire, a program called CoexistSTANCE, for there is an urgent need to stand besides others at threat of kidnap, death, rape, torture and more due to various strains of violent extremism around the globe.</p>
<p>I think one of the greatest changes between the 1960s and today was that we are no longer believing that centralized institutions are going to come to our rescue. This is no longer a &#8220;mainframe&#8221; world. It&#8217;s a &#8220;web world.&#8221; Likewise, we are seeing from-the-ground-up groups working on changing the world. One world-changing app, one web site, one invention at a time.</p>
<p>I would like to encourage everyone who wishes to see that positive universe foreseen in Star Trek to join us at GlobalCommit.org. We have opportunities to organize through social media, to create applications using big data, and to help document and track the issues of our world today, and work to making it a better place in the future.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Even in the Star Trek universe they had to go through the Eugenics War, WWIII, and countless other small conflicts before Picard, Garrett, Harriman, Kirk, Pike, April or Archer ever got to take command of a starship named Enterprise. Are we on the right course for it now? No, but Star Trek was always about hope for humanity&#039;s future. Today of all days, as we mourn the passing of Mr. Nimoy, let&#039;s keep that hope alive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in the Star Trek universe they had to go through the Eugenics War, WWIII, and countless other small conflicts before Picard, Garrett, Harriman, Kirk, Pike, April or Archer ever got to take command of a starship named Enterprise. Are we on the right course for it now? No, but Star Trek was always about hope for humanity&#8217;s future. Today of all days, as we mourn the passing of Mr. Nimoy, let&#8217;s keep that hope alive.</p>
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		By: Jefferson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it&#039;s any consolation, don&#039;t forget that even in the show, humanity had to go through some really dark times in the end of the 20th century, and early in the 21st, before it realized it had to change and evolve. The immediate future may look like hell, but Trek told us that somehow, we would survive it, and learn from it, and we would get better. I think that&#039;s still worth holding onto.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s any consolation, don&#8217;t forget that even in the show, humanity had to go through some really dark times in the end of the 20th century, and early in the 21st, before it realized it had to change and evolve. The immediate future may look like hell, but Trek told us that somehow, we would survive it, and learn from it, and we would get better. I think that&#8217;s still worth holding onto.</p>
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